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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Tibetan silver Reply with quote

Ubtil recently I only used sterling silver in my jewellery but decided start using some silver plate too. I then started to look at Tibetan but wasn't sure as I didn't know what it is made of. I have found a guide and am surprised by what I've read. I thought you might be interested so 've copied it here.......

Tibetan Silver - A Buyer’s Advisory
by: tierracast( 0 )
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Recent metallurgical testing of seven items labeled as Tibetan Silver indicate that not only do these articles frequently contain no silver whatsoever, but that high levels of lead and other dangerous metals such as arsenic, can be present.

Genuine Tibetan jewelry—an artistic expression of Tibet’s Buddhist tradition—is usually made of an alloy of silver and copper and sometimes with the addition of gold, nickel or brass ornamentation. Tibet’s artisans begin with high silver content alloys, which they shape by hand. True sterling silver Tibetan jewelry is typically hammered or chiseled, resulting in an appearance that some describe as “rustic” or “ethnic.”

Because of their beauty, it’s no surprise that jewelry items sold as “Tibetan Silver” have appeared for sale in increasing numbers in trade publications and on the Internet. The description appears especially popular online, but the products offered under this designation run the gamut of what appear to be authentic silverworks done in a vintage Tibetan style, to poorly made contemporary castings of dubious origin. The activities of design pirates should be of concern to buyers for several reasons, including potential health hazards and the inadvertent encouragement and support of criminal activity. As the buyer, not only are you being cheated into paying for items that may be grossly misrepresented either in terms of materials used or geographic authenticity, but so are the artists who make their livelihood by creating original designs only to have them stolen by copycats.

Protecting Your Health

Genuine Tibetan silver is often made from Sterling silver, which typically consists of 92.5 percent silver. Any metal can make up the remaining 7.5 percent non-silver portion, though copper is the most common one. Unlike Sterling silver, which is used in jewelry because of its combination of beauty and durability, a great deal of what is marketed as “Tibetan Silver” doesn’t match the quality of Sterling. The actual silver content of “Tibetan Silver” can be as low as 1 or 2 percent and/or the core material may actually be a tin and antimony alloy, which allows iit to be sold for much cheaper than the real thing.

In fact, as part of a larger investigation into items offered for sale on eBay that infringed on copyrighted designs, TierraCast, Inc., a California-based manufacturer of original design lead-free pewter beads, findings and components, retained Metallurgical Laboratories, Inc. of Concord, California to test seven items purchased from six different eBay and Etsy sellers in April of 2007. (It should be noted that all seven of these items were clearly cast components, singled out for examination and testing primarily because of copyright infringement issues. Though a wide range of other jewelry and ornamental items are also advertised as Tibetan silver, no attempt was made to determine the actual metal content of those items.) All of the test items bore indications of overseas manufacture; only two were shipped directly from China, the others where shipped from the United Kingdom, Australia and the United States.








No silver was found in any of the tested items being marketed as Tibetan silver. Instead, in six samples, nickel, copper and zinc were the dominant metals identified by XRF (X-ray fluorescence) analysis on the areas of exposed core material of these pieces. The seventh item, shipped from Hong Kong, contained 1.3 % arsenic, a powerful poison and carcinogen and, an alarmingly high 54% lead content. Copies of certified test results are available upon request from TierraCast, Inc.

Adults exposed to lead can suffer increased blood pressure, fertility problems, nerve disorders, muscle and joint pain, irritability, and memory loss. Children are even more susceptible to the effects of lead exposure and even very low levels of exposure can result in learning disabilities, attention deficit disorder and behavioral problems, stunted growth, hearing impairment and kidney damage. Higher levels of exposure can cause permanent mental trauma, a vegetative or comatose state and even death. Children under the age of six are particularly vulnerable to the harmful effects of lead because their brains and central nervous system are still being formed. A recent tragedy in Minnesota highlights this point.

Following the death of a four-year-old there in March of 2006, lead content in “white metal” and “pewter” has been the target of recent recalls of millions of small cast items by the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission (CPSC). The child died as the result of lead poisoning from swallowing a small metal “charm” that was distributed as part of a purchase giveaway by Reebok. Produced by a contractor in China, the bracelets were later determined to be 99 percent lead. According to research by New York state Pathologist Ward Stone as much as 95 percent of children's jewelry is made of lead. Stone was compelled to undertake his own investigation after discovering that jewelry owned by his own child was high in lead content. Findings like these have caused the State of California to set standards that are now in effect for levels of lead in children's and adult jewelry, body piercing jewelry and metal and non-metallic jewelry components, including pewter. Although all pewter contains trace amounts of lead, the term "lead free pewter" is used to describe pewter that meets the stringent U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) standard.

Pewter is defined by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and the American pewter Guild as a “metal alloy product of which the composition shall not be less than 90% Grade A tin, with the remainder composed of metals appropriate for use in pewter.” tin is refined from ore that contains other metals, including lead. Despite chemical processing to remove the lead, trace amounts remain. TierraCast uses Britannia, a tin alloy that exceeds both the FDA standards for pewter in contact with food and CSPC policy for children's jewelry, as well as the recent stringent California law. The casting alloy is routinely tested for lead content, yielding results ranging from as low as 10 parts per million (PPM) to a high of 450 ppm, with average ranging well below 200 ppm. These levels are well below the 600 ppm level of lead allowable in children's jewelry cited in the newly enacted laws in California.






Guide ID: 10000000003804484Guide created: 06/12/07 (updated 08/27/08)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a bit worrying.
I have the dragonflies in the pic.
Does it mean they have lead in them?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting that.

I think there have been discussions here before about these beads. Personally I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole since EU laws are so strict on what metals we can and cannot use, aside from the worrying issue of them containing other nasty metals.

The rest of the world just doesn't seem to place the same importance on what metals they use and pretty much anything can end up in the pot with metal beads and findings, even with sterling silver too.

I also wouldn't touch the majority of metal findings sold in the US either for the same reason. So many of them simply do not meet EU requirements for nickel content. Likewise, I have had to say no to some fabulous fair trade beads from different parts of Africa for the same reason. They just don't meet our EU requirements in regards to the metal they use. And as far as the villagers are concerned, they just sell them to the US now where there is no legal issue rather than make efforts to change the raw materials they use.

I think the Tibetan silver beads are probably the most scary though. Especially since I see them used so often in childrens jewellery, because they are so cheap.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So even if the seller is a reputable one and says the beads are lead and nickel free I should still be worried? Unfortunately I have lots of Tibetan silver!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Di wrote:
So even if the seller is a reputable one and says the beads are lead and nickel free I should still be worried? Unfortunately I have lots of Tibetan silver!

Di Daisy


Tricky one. It might be worth asking them if they have had the beads tested themselves to proove this or are simply going on the say so of their own supplier.


My experience is that the large asian factories will tell you what they think you want to hear. Not necessarily the truth.

It also may be worth asking exactly how much pure silver is in the bead percentage-wise and what the other metals used are.

It is tough though as even the best bead shops out there can't necessarily afford to test every batch of metal beads that comes through their doors and so much has to go on the trust they have with their factories.

I am guessing that you are more likely to have legally-compliant beads if you buy from one of the large bead retailers here rather than say, buying direct from asia on ebay or something. But short of testing those beads, who knows.

It is just that, as the article points out, these metal beads are notorious for being dodgy. There is a reason they are so cheap in other words!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We buy large quantities of 'metal' beads and chain from China. All of which is tested by the supplier as lead and nickel free and a certificate of the testing is made available to us. I think the issue here is we buy from a very large supplier who needs to go through these procedures to be able to sell to the EU and who also sells 'cheap' product for his home market. The good thing is we have a choice what we want to buy and we choose the more expensive of the two to ensure we stay the right side of the law.

What we have found is that the smaller suppliers (i.e. on ebay!) just sell the most basic of products which are riddled with lead and nickel, etc!!

My advice is this... if you are not sure then ask the supplier for a guarantee that the product is both lead and nickel free. Ask them for the test certificate to back up their claims, and be sensible about things.

Don't forget that quite a lot of non-jewellery metal items are also made from the lead and nickel mix so don't go eating or licking your metal castings just in case!! Snack Eek

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, I remembered reading something about this subject back in February when I was a pretty active member of the Bead & Button forum in the states. Russ Nobbs of Rings & Things in Spokane, Washington had posted a link to the Bead Style forum. He is very knowledgible and doesn't post anything that isn't well researched. I have copied it here. Once you get into the forum discussion there are additional links. It is mostly regarding California laws but I understand that other states are coming on board about this. Might be of some interest.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tinkerbell wrote:
Hi all, I remembered reading something about this subject back in February when I was a pretty active member of the Bead & Button forum in the states. Russ Nobbs of Rings & Things in Spokane, Washington had posted a link to the Bead Style forum. He is very knowledgible and doesn't post anything that isn't well researched. I have copied it here. Once you get into the forum discussion there are additional links. It is mostly regarding California laws but I understand that other states are coming on board about this. Might be of some interest.

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That is really interesting, thanks for posting that Lynn

Russ talks in depth on california laws though. Most of the members here are in the European Union, so we need to always be fully aware of our own laws on metals, which are mostly concerned with nickel content. So even metal items they sell that may be fully compliant with their lead laws, still could fail ours if they contain nickel levels higher than the permitted amounts.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Di wrote:
So even if the seller is a reputable one and says the beads are lead and nickel free I should still be worried? Unfortunately I have lots of Tibetan silver!

Di Daisy

Me too! I have been doing the same for ages - I am always very careful to buy beads claimed to be lead and nickel free..... I knew that 'Tibetan Silver' was not neccessarily silver and always thought of it as a descriptive term, but I thought it safe to buy if lead an nickel free. Have I been misled?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are right Carmie, although I don't sell Tibetan Silver, some suppliers in China are now producing it without the lead and nickel.

So as long as you check what is written you should be fine.

However, it is true to say that there is a lot of Tibetan silver out there, which as we know has no or little real silver content and is made up of mixed white coloured metals, including lead and nickel.

Reputable websites in the UK will be complient with EU law, however there is a lot of 'wannabies' on ebay who won't have a clue that a law exists, and cetainly sellers oustide the EU won't know either

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting, and something I hadn't considered (as a newbie). I've just checked some items I'm waiting on from Ebay and the seller states that Tibetan silver is not Sterling silver - their goods are made from steel, zinc and little silver, lead free. I did at least think to buy something that stated it was lead free, so my brain must have been working somewhat! I'll wait until I receive it and see how it seems, but thanks for highlighting this. I'll be more careful in future.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm very interested in the comments posted so far on this thread.

We have stocked Tibetan Silver for a long time now and, right from the start, I was keen to ensure that it was lead and nickel free. Personally I am intolerant to nickel and have never been able to wear anything containing it.

All of our Tibetan Silver is lead free and not only does it comply with the EU nickel directive but it is completely nickel free. We obtained a certificate that reassures of this and have been informed that each and every batch that leaves the factory is first tested as part of a continual Quality Assurance process.

A retailer simply cannot afford to take chances in selling non-compliant stock. These regulations are put in place to ensure the health and well-being of the public and quite rightly so, the last thing anybody wants is to have sub-standard items being sold causing problems for the customer and giving the whole trade a bad name. This is why we have always ensured our stock is of the highest quality and we welcome the EU regulations, they are there for a reason after all!

I would say however that there could well be some retailers out there that may try to pass off dodgy stock as legitimate. We specialise in Tibetan and can assure all our customers that ours is of the highest standard.

Tibetan Silver provides a huge and varied selection of beads and charms that is not obtainable elsewhere, giving scope for the creation of some lovely and interesting pieces of jewellery, it would be a shame if people denied themselves the opportunity to express their creativity with it based purely on a 'knee jerk' reaction to some scaremongering. As long as your supplier is reputable and has obtained the proper certification then you will be fine.

Yes, Tibetan Silver is inexpensive in relation to other options but that is not to say that it is a health hazard.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for all the replies to this subject, it's been really interesting reading them all Very Happy

Personally I will buy Tibetan silver now for my cheaper stuff but ONLY from UK sellers who know where their stock has come from, to be sure of them being free from nasties.

I was disappointed to see the damning reports on Tibetan silver because so much of it is beautiful and I was looking forward to using it until I googled to find out what it contains! Shocked I feel better now I know that I can buy it from some of our beady friends here and know it will be safe. Very Happy

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