Tried Fimo in oven with Kato

Carrie Potter · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: Tried Fimo in oven with Kato

I baked some beads made in white, black and burgundy coloured Fimo Classic, which says on the pack 110C, in with Kato beads as an experiment, with the oven at 150C for the Kato - in fact at one point I saw it had gone up to nearly 160C - and astonishingly there was no smell of burning or smoke and the beads seem fine. I used an oven thermometer.

Not suggesting you all try it, of course!

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Cherie · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject:

But you know we will :-) thanks for that pet always good to have someone else set their kitchen on fire before I give it a go. Trouble with pearl clay though as that does tend to burn quickly

Carrie Potter · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject:

Ooh - I won't try pearl then!!

I have noticed that I have Kato that says 150C and new that says 160C - it's ridiculous - I can't imagine why they didn't try to bring the baking temp down when they reformulated it Evil or Very Mad

I wouldn't have tried it but I had just the one set of Fimo berads and it seemed a good opportunity to try them!

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Cherie · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject:

The pearl is worth using as it gives a stunning result. I just buy white pearl and mix it with whatever colour I fancy. The pearly end result is gorgeous.

ejralph · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:16 am Post subject:

Ah do be careful overbaking Fimo - it can release some nasty fumes if the temp gets too high.

I must admit, I am amazed it worked though. If I bake new Fimo even as high as 125, I get cracking.

I had no idea that the new formula of Kato was such a high baking temp. That is interesting.

Emma Daisy

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LoopyLou · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:43 am Post subject:

Hmmmmm, yet another reason why I WON'T be using Kato anymore. I just can't get on with it at all. Rolling Eyes

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Carrie Potter · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:55 am Post subject:

I won't be making a habit of it, Emma, never fear Mr. Green

In fact although the black and white parts of the beads baked perfectly the burgundy has whitish marks in it - I suppose they were there before I sanded and didn't notice and I can't seem to buff them up very well. Tho it could be the cornflour on the clay I suppose...

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ejralph · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject:

Carrie Potter wrote:

I won't be making a habit of it, Emma, never fear Mr. Green

In fact although the black and white parts of the beads baked perfectly the burgundy has whitish marks in it - I suppose they were there before I sanded and didn't notice and I can't seem to buff them up very well. Tho it could be the cornflour on the clay I suppose...

Oh I am just jealous.

Everyone else seems to be able to bake the new fimo at 130 no probs. With me, it cracks each time. Even with different ovens - with 4 different thermometers to check the temp. (I even got the oven repair man to calibrate the temp perfectly when he was here. So I know it is not an overheating issue, I *AM* cooking the stuff at 130, it just seems to hate me at that temp and crack.

I came to the conclusion there must be a reason why they recommend 110 now though and that seems to be the max temp I can bake at reliably.

Very frustrating to hear you all overbaking it ROTFL

Emma

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Carrie Potter · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject:

It's very odd, Emma. In this press release they even say that the new can be baked at 130.

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ejralph · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:54 am Post subject:

Carrie Potter wrote:

It's very odd, Emma. In this press release they even say that the new can be baked at 130.

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I know - *everyone* is saying they can bake it at 130, no problems.

Not me.

I can bake thin sheets at 130, and they are excellent. Stronger and more flexible than a credit card. I love the new formulation for that.

But solid round beads - nope. It is a mystery to me. Because I know that my temps are correct. I know that I get this problem using a variety of ovens.

I also know that by laws of average, everyone else is not lying. If they say they are baking without getting cracking, I have to believe that.

Fimo themselves SAY the new clay can be baked at 130. But if this is so, why did they go to the expense and the marketing disaster of changing the baking temp on the packaging?

It is no coincidence that they changed it to 110 degrees - which is literally the highest I have found I can bake it and guarentee no cracking.

If they know there is no issue, why change the temp at all? Why not just let the clay go out and not tell the punters that the recipe has changed? That is what all the other clay companies did. Premo, Kato - they have all changed without making much of a mention of it.

SO I know there is something in what I am finding. But it is a mystery to me why other people are not getting cracking and I am.

The whole thing is just a bloody mystery! lol. I will do more tests when I have time and will get to the bottom of it one day. ROTFL

We had a whole thread discussing it on the BPCG forum, where I showed my test beads, we debated it in and out and came up with ideas for tests we can do. I just don't have the time to beta-test the new formula for Fimo if you know what I mean.

So, I just stick to their recommended baking temperature of 110 for round balls with the new formula fimo, and only up the temp if I am doing something flat that needs more flexibility.

Emma

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